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<p>The final episode of
<i>Season 2 of Branching Out: The Forest Podcast</i>, hosted by
<strong>Jose Bolaños</strong> from IUFRO HQ, focused on IUFRO Scientific
Division 9 - <strong>Forest Policy and Economics</strong>. The episode
features <strong>Janette Bulkan</strong> from the University of British
Columbia in Canada and <strong>Lukas Giessen</strong> from the Technical
University Dresden in Germany, along with co-host <strong>Gerda
Wolfrum</strong> from IUFRO HQ. Janette and Lukas coordinate Working Parties on
<i>Indigenous peoples and forest landscapes</i> and <i>A.I. methods in
forest social sciences</i>, respectively. <br /><br />Besides
highlighting the broad range of topics covered by Division 9 spanning from forest
resources research to information and communication, from forest history to legal aspects,
and from forest governance to forest sector analysis, Janette and Lukas explained why the
role of social sciences in forest research has become so important. <br /><br
/>In this context, Lukas referred to a quote by famous forester Jack Westoby who said
that "<i>forestry is not about trees, it's about
people</i>." <br /><br />Janette focused mainly on the relationship
between Indigenous Peoples and forests highlighting her work in the Guyana Shield.
Globally, she said, Indigenous Peoples, who have the longest association with specific
places, including in forests, which are their traditional ancestral territories, often
have the weakest legal rights to those areas. <br /><br />Lukas, on the other
hand, delved deeper into the concept of forest governance. He also talked about the big
potential that he sees in AI helping social science to increase rigor and to reflect on
human biases. It remains to be seen how successful AI will be in analyzing qualitative,
not quantitative social science data, but this is what makes it so exciting. <br
/><br />Based on these two approaches, the episode investigates how both the
traditional and the high-tech knowledge contribute to forest and forest management today
and in the future.<br /><br />Finally, looking ahead to the 2029 IUFRO World
Congress in Nairobi, the first of its kind on the African continent, both shared their
expectations of the event. While Lukas hoped for a large participation and lots of
scientific outputs deriving from interactions at the event, Janette specifically wished
for a good representation of Indigenous Peoples from Africa and elsewhere, who have a
story to tell, who have knowledge to impart and who will be listened to by the
policymakers and research scientists gathered there.<br /><br />Tune in
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