Hi Mike, and others who have responded,
Kevin Smith's review "An organismal view of dendrochronology" in
Dendrochronologia mentions examples of white rings that develop in poplar
and birch in response to insect defoliation or crown loss in winter
storms.
I am not sure what would cause dark rings in oak, but agree that it is
something that is activating a compartmentalization response and/or
creating a barrier zone. Because these occurrences are a complete, single
growth ring that encompasses the whole tree, I suspect an environmental
factor.
Mike, you might check for a correlation between the year of the ring and
winter injury, late or early frost, an extreme winter or summer
temperature event, or maybe even flooding or insect defoliation.
In response to Ed Barnard, I don't think these rings indicate oak wilt, as
infections in white oaks that survive the first year generally show up as
incomplete and spotty dark rings, with additional partial dark rings in
the same affected areas the following year in surviving white oaks. Among
oaks, red oaks die very quickly of oak wilt, so you wouldn't see this long
term survival.
On a different dendrochronology note:
If anyone is familiar with "islands" of enclosed phloem in red or live
oaks that apparently generate a new layer of xylem-generating cambium
after cambium injury please let me know. I have found this response in
several oak species after attack by the cambium-feeding gold-spotted oak
borer (GSOB), Agrilus coxalis, which is now a problem pest in Southern
California.
I am developing methods of back-dating such enclosed phloem to reconstruct
the history of the pest's residence and spread within and among stands,
and determine onset of tree mortality after attacks. So I need to know
other factors -- biotic or environmental -- that may generate similar new
layers of xylem external to patches of enclosed phloem. I have enclosed
pictures of the enclosed phloem and response wood that develops after GSOB
attack if inner phloem has not been killed by very heavy attacks and/or
pathogens associated with this decline.
Thanks!
Paul Zambino
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Folks (and particularly Mike Albers),
Very interesting! I really have no idea, being for the most
part a Pathologist in Florida dealing primarily with pines. As a
pathologist, a thought comes to mind, but you should try to verify even
the possibility of this with someone who deals with oak wilt (caused by
Ceratocystis fagacearum). You are (as I understand it) in an area where
this disease occurs, and red oaks are susceptible hosts, often displaying
vascular staining or streaking. Most of the time infected red oaks die,
but I do know that if infections of some vascular wilts are not lethal,
recovery can occur, sometimes ?compartmentalizing? the pathogen in
interior vascular tissues ? together with its associated vascular
staining. Any chance that these trees might be oak wilt survivors? This
could possibly be evaluated in a laboratory.
Ed
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Any idea what would cause dark rings in red oak logs as in the attached
pictures?
The dark rings run the length of the logs. So far this has been seen on a
number of sites in 3 or 4 counties in Minnesota. Not all red oak trees on
a site have the dark rings.
My first guess is that it is a barrier zone resulting from a wound or
injury of some type. However it seems strange that it forms a complete
cylinder that reaches the ends of the logs. I didn't see any logs where
the dark ring only went part way around a log. Also there were some logs
that had obvious injuries with decay and discoloration but these logs did
not form rings or even have distinct barrier zones going even part way
around the log.
I've only looked at logs like this while in the mill, not on the site
where they were harvested. At first, the thought was that these rings were
the result of something happening 16 to 17 years ago. This will take more
investigation, but it looks to me like the time period varies anywhere
from 6 to 35 years. Also at this time I can't say if the time period
varies ibetween sites, or if the time period varies from log to log on the
same site.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Mike Albers
Forest Health Specialist
MN DNR-Forestry
1201 E. Hwy. # 2
Grand Rapids, MN 55744
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Any idea what would cause dark rings in red oak logs as in the attached pictures?
The dark rings run the length of the logs. So far this has been seen on a number of sites in 3 or 4 counties in Minnesota. Not all red oak trees on a site have the dark rings.
My first guess is that it is a barrier zone resulting from a wound or injury of some type. However it seems strange that it forms a complete cylinder that reaches the ends of the logs. I didn't see any logs where the dark ring only went part way around a log. Also there were some logs that had obvious injuries with decay and discoloration but these logs did not form rings or even have distinct barrier zones going even part way around the log.
I've only looked at logs like this while in the mill, not on the site where they were harvested. At first, the thought was that these rings were the result of something happening 16 to 17 years ago. This will take more investigation, but it looks to me like the time period varies anywhere from 6 to 35 years. Also at this time I can't say if the time period varies ibetween sites, or if the time period varies from log to log on the same site.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Mike Albers
Forest Health Specialist
MN DNR-Forestry
1201 E. Hwy. # 2
Grand Rapids, MN 55744
(218)-327-4115
Mike Albers
Forest Health Specialist
MN DNR-Forestry
1201 E. Hwy. # 2
Grand Rapids, MN 55744
(218)-327-4115
Mike Albers
Forest Health Specialist
MN DNR-Forestry
1201 E. Hwy. # 2
Grand Rapids, MN 55744
(218)-327-4115
Mike Albers
Forest Health Specialist
MN DNR-Forestry
1201 E. Hwy. # 2
Grand Rapids, MN 55744
(218)-327-4115
Mike Albers
Forest Health Specialist
MN DNR-Forestry
1201 E. Hwy. # 2
Grand Rapids, MN 55744
(218)-327-4115
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